darryl cunningham ([info]tallguywrites) wrote,
2010-06-28 15:56:00
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Homeopathy

A 19 page strip about homeopathy. My follow up story-strip to the one I did on the MMR vaccine scare, and another chapter of my ongoing book about science. This is, in effect, the beta version of the strip. There will, I'm sure, be mistakes dotted throughout that I haven't spotted. So do feel free to point out any errors. The references will be in the next entry.

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[info]spooky_nine

June 28 2010, 15:11:40 UTC 1 year ago

I really, really enjoyed this one. I love that only shades of blue and black were used.

In part 13 panel 3 says "survay" instead of "survey".

[info]tallguywrites

June 28 2010, 15:23:37 UTC 1 year ago

Yes, it was a lot of fun using all the water imagery.

[info]ginasketch

June 28 2010, 15:19:07 UTC 1 year ago Edited: June 28 2010, 15:19:46 UTC

This is awesome- though sad at the same time. I hope it makes people sit up and listen.

Re: Errors-I spotted "This advise would put any child at risk"

[info]tallguywrites

June 28 2010, 15:22:35 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks Gina. There's always a few mistakes that creep through, despite my best efforts. Very annoying.

[info]lewbasnight

June 28 2010, 15:25:25 UTC 1 year ago

Page 14-- I think "advise" should be "advice."

Well told. I'm enjoying these.

[info]cucumberseed

June 28 2010, 15:39:44 UTC 1 year ago

Wow. Excellent.

[info]xshardsx

June 28 2010, 15:42:03 UTC 1 year ago

It's really nice to see someone put all this into a clear, concise, easily-readable form.
I think the 'reader's voice' tags are less necessary. It kind of detracts from the focus a bit, and, if the reader is actually asking the general kind of question written, it doesn't need to be pointed out.
Other than that and the spelling tags brought up already, it's a very strong issue. Love the water imagery and I love that you always have real-world evidence to back your shit up.

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[info]rosalarian

June 28 2010, 16:23:22 UTC 1 year ago

If you show me that, say,
Homeopathy works,
I will change my mind,
I will spin on a fucking dime.
I'll be as embarassed as hell,
Yet I will run through the streets yelling,
It's a MIRACLE!
Take physics and bin it!
Water has memory!
And whilst its memory
Of a long lost drop of onion juice is infinite,
It somehow forgets all the poo it's had in it.

I think you would love Tim Minchin's Storm.

[info]lafinjack

June 28 2010, 19:55:28 UTC 1 year ago

[info]laura_seabrook

1 year ago

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[info]jinty

June 28 2010, 16:28:58 UTC 1 year ago

Good stuff as ever!

Pg 3 - 'vigorously' not 'vigourously'
Pg 6 - I didn't really understand why the samples were taped to the ceiling? presumably to keep them out of the reach of the homepaths but I thought this was slightly unclear.

[info]lafinjack

June 28 2010, 19:58:19 UTC 1 year ago

I read it as they were keeping the samples out of circulation for the duration of the experiment, and in a way that would make it extremely unlikely for them to get mixed back in with the real samples.

[info]criticalist

1 year ago

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[info]lafinjack

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[info]tallguywrites

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[info]mislih

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[info]finkenstein

June 28 2010, 16:48:42 UTC 1 year ago

This is absolutely wonderful! Oh, I've had so many long winded conversations about homeopathy with people who just don't understand how it actually is supposed to work. I've often felt like writing a nice open letter easily explaining it to them, but I think you have done that for me and beautifully so. Thank you!!
I actually wasn't aware of the psychotherapy part of the treatment and it seems similar to the way chiropractic medicine can be helpful to people in that it is just helpful to be massaged and listened to.

However I agree that if these practitioners are not willing to be realistic and put the health of their patients above their business it can't be allowed to go on.

[info]lafinjack

June 28 2010, 20:03:38 UTC 1 year ago

I actually wasn't aware of the psychotherapy part of the treatment...

There are a couple new clinics here Stateside that are trying this out. Larger exam rooms, longer appointment blocks with more doctor/patient face time, etc. Last I read about them they were doing well - now we just need to get basic doctor care to everybody else...

[info]charleston

June 28 2010, 18:04:20 UTC 1 year ago

This is really great! and v interesting.

I would put "Sense About Science" in inverted commas, as on first reading I thought you were saying that she had "the charity sense" about science.

[info]tallguywrites

July 2 2010, 02:00:03 UTC 1 year ago

I've now made this correction. Thanks for pointing it out.

[info]vergreeneyes

June 28 2010, 18:22:50 UTC 1 year ago

A great series on the whole, very educational.

One thing that does bother me a little is the idea that all alternative medicine is as bad as homeopathy - I don't know if that's what you meant to imply, but several panels refer simply to alternative medicine as a whole rather than homeopathy.

There are some natural cures that do work - hell, modern medicine often takes inspiration from nature. I've also heard that recent research showed there is at least some truth to acupuncture, which is also often grouped together with homeopathy (wish I could point to a source for that, mind you). I'm not saying these things -do- work, but we shouldn't simply dismiss them. Homeopathy on the other hand is internally inconsistent - even if it did work, it wouldn't be for the reasons homeopaths state, so they would still need to come up with something better.

[info]lafinjack

June 28 2010, 20:10:00 UTC 1 year ago

We test alternative medicines to see if they work, and the stuff that works we call "medicine".

[info]shourimajo

June 28 2010, 18:35:27 UTC 1 year ago

Very nice! And very true.

[info]crazycrone

June 28 2010, 18:41:44 UTC 1 year ago

Fascinating.

[info]nineveh_rains

June 28 2010, 18:42:04 UTC 1 year ago

Cool. I had no idea that homeopathy involved faith healing, I always just thought it was natural/alternative medicines (ie. herbs, etc.)

I love how the main character does random stuff, like feed the fish during the conversation. It makes it feel very personal and homey.

[info]ingridsummers

June 28 2010, 19:15:48 UTC 1 year ago

I enjoyed this. I've long thought the methods by which homeopaths try to show how it works make no sense. As you know I use some homeopathy; but in combination with other modalities. I think it has its place in an overall health plan.

I do note, that the one place it has worked which has kept me engaged is with my cats. They do not benefit from the placebo effect. But, perhaps the are simply benefitting from "illness running its course". All I know is that they respond better to treatment, or, in the case of one cat where there was no treatment, got better and lived to 19.

[info]crazycrone

June 28 2010, 22:38:23 UTC 1 year ago

That's true...I've found that Rescue Remedy, which is really pretty homeopathic, seems to work on cats. Can't prove it, of course, but I know of several cases.

[info]motodraconis

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[info]diaryofadrongo

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[info]heavenscalyx

June 28 2010, 23:08:51 UTC 1 year ago

This is a nice piece, and I like the thematic colors. I would add a cautionary note, though, against the conflation of herbal medicine with homeopathy. Some herbal medicine does have modest effects, and is certainly the origin of some of our most successful pharmaceuticals (eg, willow bark as the source for aspirin).

[info]tallguywrites

June 28 2010, 23:15:24 UTC 1 year ago

Yes, I'm going to alter the strip slightly, as I feel it confuses the issue.

[info]lawyerette

1 year ago

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[info]laura_seabrook

June 29 2010, 02:01:34 UTC 1 year ago

Once again your work is an inspiration for me, being able to clearly explain an issue or subject in simple but ever so effective manner. I also like that your style is expanding.

WELL DONE!!!

[info]laura_seabrook

June 29 2010, 02:41:44 UTC 1 year ago

Oh, and I missed the one on the MMR vaccine scare - do you have a link to it?

[info]tallguywrites

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[info]mocha_mephooki

June 29 2010, 02:19:26 UTC 1 year ago

I adore reading these... you're incredibly good at presenting these topics!

[info]zpxlng

June 29 2010, 03:22:18 UTC 1 year ago

Should be, "...neither consistent NOR convincing."

Enjoyed the comic; thanks. :)

[info]hildeaux

June 29 2010, 05:38:44 UTC 1 year ago

that was amazing. i love it. it's beautiful. the only error i noticed was the use of “or” somewhere where it should have been “nor”. remember, either/or, neither/nor.

[info]retrogradeorbit

June 29 2010, 09:37:47 UTC 1 year ago

Remember that herbal remedies and homeopathic remedies are two completely different things. The "spokesman" seems to get them confused. Homeopathics are placebo. But herbals are not. Huge numbers of pharmaceutical drugs have their origins in herbal plants. How can the public see the the finer points of detail if even the experts get it so wrong?

[info]retrogradeorbit

June 29 2010, 09:39:01 UTC 1 year ago

In fact the effective treatment for malaria for many years was quinine, which comes from the bark of the cinchona tree.

[info]spiffystuff

1 year ago

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[info]kimic

June 29 2010, 16:26:29 UTC 1 year ago

Excellent work and a very refreshing read. I love the neutral demeanor of the narrator, debunking without attacking. It comes across much more powerfully than the many critiques of homeopathy that are full of vitriol, even if it's deserved.

Noticed a couple of errors: on the seventh page, first panel, Benveniste's name is misspelled. In the second panel on the same page, there's an unnecessary comma: "... a company called, Digibio ..."

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